Macska a Limmatban

Macska a Limmatban E09 [ENG] - From Lenin to Limmat

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Ez a Macska a Limmatban podcast első angol nyelvű adása, melyben Jenya (UKR) mesél kalandos útjáról Dél-Ukrajnából Zürichbe. Az epizód során szó esik a Dél-Ukrajnából Svájcba vezető úton történt eseményekről, mint például a ledőlt Lenin-szobrok, a szomjoltás, váratlan barátságok…

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Macska a Limmatban
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2025. 08. 07.
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1 óra 40 perc
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ukrajna, svájc, menekülés
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[Music] I'm saying it with accent, but actually [Music] Say the name of the podcast. >> The podcast is Machka Elimban.

Alimitban. >> Limbban. >> Limadban. >> Perfect. >> I was trying my best. >> Amazing. >> As you're probably not listening to our podcast.

This is our first English speaking podcast.

Uh the first English speaking Mkali Malban.

Um, if your English is if our English is too much challenging for you or the way we speak, uh, you will find this video on YouTube with Hungarian subtitle as well.

So, you're going to have to do watch it not while you're doing the dishes, but another time.

And if you don't like listening to our accents in English, you can go and [ __ ] yourself. >> Exactly. >> Shut up.

We don't care about your comments about our accents.

Your English is worse. >> Oh, sorry.

I just muted you for a second. >> Your English is worse.

So, shut up. >> Who's anyone? >> Are you talking to the Romanian lady again? >> No.

Whoever is complaining, it's always people who complain about other people's accents are the ones that are scared to say even a word in English. >> Oh, yeah. >> And it's like, you can hear that they're from here.

Let let him talk a bit. >> Yeah. >> How do you feel, Ja? >> I'm very good.

I I know 20 words on English, so I will manipulate with them. >> It's more than we do in Hungarian.

So, >> so I will try my best to manipulate them and all of you will understand this.

I I hope so, but >> we'll see. >> Want to say hi to someone to Marina or something? >> Hello, Marina.

Marina, >> cook something, please. >> Who is Marina?

Marina is my wife and she's at work now because she's very independent woman and working at all. >> Someone has to make some money. >> So I hope you guys you can understand how uh lucky am I? >> Yeah.

So um wait so she works, she cooks.

What do you do? >> I'm I'm also cooking. >> He's doing podcast with us. >> Yeah, actually.

Yeah. >> I'm like a house houseman. >> Houseman.

Nice. >> How many Ukrainians are there?

Ukrainian speaking people >> where in my house? >> No, in general in on the planet Earth. >> In the planet Earth, I think it's about 50 millions people. >> 50? >> Yeah.

Because it's also a big uh a lot of people in Canada and America.

But at the moment, I think uh it's like 30 so 30 millions people living in Ukraine. >> Okay. >> Yeah. and like 5 millions are immigrating or already immigrated. >> All right.

But it's it's not like uh I mean of course in this amount of people left the country that was probably because of the war but already before there was a quite a movement right because >> yeah of course I I also think so.

So that's why I say like people with some roots there about 50 millions people or even even more.

I really don't know statistics but I have a feeling like this amount. >> Yeah, there are like a lot of um when I'm in Prague I usually use Bolt and when I see there are like many Ukrainian drivers there and then I see when they joined and it's usually 2010 12.

So you would think when you see a Ukrainian somewhere else that ah they just they just arrived because of the war and then many people actually lived there for quite a long time. >> Yeah.

Actually, when when I was in Prague, I was I really didn't know what language I need to use because uh it's a little bit similar to Ukrainian.

I mean, the Czech language and uh so much people a lot of people are speaking Russian or Ukrainian.

So, it was crazy for me and I just and they didn't understand English and I just start sometimes in the shop to speak Ukrainian and everyone understood me. >> Oh, nice.

That's that's a unique experience. >> Yeah.

The same like in Poland because I think uh like Polish people also understand Czech people like the language is similar but they >> I don't I have I have a Polish friend living in Prague.

Like I have every kind of friend as you guys probably already realized.

I have a Polish friend living in uh in Prague in Czech Czech Republic and he's he got like his uh permit to to stay in like he got like another level but for that he needed to make like a language test and he said he was sweating blood because the not sweating blood to learn uh the proper check like probably they understand each other well and I think it's also the case if your mother tongue is Ukrainian or Russian, but um to speak properly and learn the grammar, it's it's in for Polish at least.

And he's not a stupid guy like he's doing his masters in chemistry or something whatever I don't know never really understood. >> Yeah, of course.

I mean to learn a language properly is different than understanding others because the language languages are somewhat similar or have similar words like Czech people, Slovakia, Slovakians I know as well that they do understand each other quite well.

That's that's more like dialect people as I O don't don't start with that >> actually actually I have experience in Poland when I was trying uh I was going to work in Poland in ship building plant and uh ship building plants >> ship building plants >> ship building sorry they are repairing uh ships and uh painting and other stuff so but uh the topic is like I was when I was talking Ukrainian everyone like Polish people understood me but uh they don't like when you speak Ukrainian with them they they are probably want that we will try hard to speak Polish but not you know when you change on English no one understand you >> I mean maybe in some in other news but in ship building plan can you imagine people are not so top top intelligence people M >> yeah but maybe maybe they just don't speak more foreign languages because they don't necessarily need it >> or they just don't want because a lot of po Polish people also go working in Germany >> right in other countries >> but whenever I fly to Poland and I have I say the passengers like ginorra >> they they always think right away and for some reason European Eastern European People always have the idea that they always send send flight attendants who speak the local language which is would be just [ __ ] crazy like the usually airlines already struggle to find the right people not that you would have to make the schedule according to that at least one person speak that particular language that would be impossible so I just say Jindra because I want to be nice and they start talking to me Polish so I stopped saying that because it's just >> Yeah. >> But do you have some recorded uh voice like >> Yeah.

Yeah. >> Only for the safety stuff.

But for example, in the end of the fly, >> the what? >> In the end of the fly when there is another, oh, thank you for flying blah blah blah. >> Yeah.

There is like this prior to landing speech which is like return to your seat, fasten your seat belt, open the window, put your seat back to the upright position >> and fold over your table.

The safety instructions card is in your seat pocket.

Please read it carefully prior to landing. unlikely to evacuation. >> He's really your luggage behind. >> It's almost like he works there. >> It seems like, but I'm not sure. >> I think he's just making it up. >> Yeah, >> he's just obsessed. >> That's my autistic trait.

Like >> sitting here with a podcast microphone and I pretend that I'm like >> Look, some people learn the the metro announcements and train announcements word by word.

You learn the the flight announcement.

Yeah, Posa, we are talking to you. >> It's like type of type of hobby. >> Yes, learn the announcements on the different languages. >> Yeah, be nice to our autistic friends. >> Yep.

So, where are you exactly from? >> So, I'm from Ukraine from the city Nikolai.

That is actually industrial city in the south of Ukraine.

It is to understand geographically it is between Odessa that is actually a big uh city in Black Sea and Herson from the other side.

So we have river southb that is actually I think not well known for European people. >> No. >> Yeah.

So we're like a city on two benches of the river and it is like uh 600,000 people living there. >> It's then it's a south east of Ukraine, right? >> It's just >> how many people living there?

Sorry. >> 600,000 and it is south of Ukraine like in the middle of the south. >> Yeah.

Uh how did you how did you say the name of the city? [Applause] >> You know >> I know.

So Mikolive it is Ukrainian version.

Nikolive is Russian version >> but it's N at the beginning in Russian. >> Mikolive it's like the name uh of St.

Nikolai you know and on Ukrainian is St.

Mikolai. >> Yeah like in Hungary it's Miklo >> Miklo St.

So it will be the city will call maybe Miklo Miklo Miklo.

Um, so so you grew up there? >> I grew up there till 18.

Then I went, I leave uh the city and I go to the capital in Ke.

I was >> at least that you said in Ukraine.

Thanks God. >> Yeah. >> So I have education half in Ke and then they >> What?

What did you study? >> I I studied linguistic.

I was studying Chinese but then they kicked me out. >> Oh.

And then they I I came back in Mikolaf and finish it in in Phil theological university. >> Okay.

Still in Chinese? >> No, it was English and Ukrainian.

So I'm I'm a teacher of Ukrainian literature and English as well. >> All right.

And English? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> But I was not uh I I don't have like super super student. >> Okay.

Have you ever wor worked with your degree or what?

What? >> I have only practiced at at my school in Mikol life.

Uh so I was practicing for maybe 3 months and that's all. >> It's better for everyone >> and I have uh five form uh uh at like five and third form school. >> What does that mean? >> Ah the class >> the class.

The five class and third class.

Okay. >> Yeah. >> So, the fifth and the third class. >> Fifth and the third.

But they represent me cup like for best uh best teacher ever. >> A very sweet cute. >> Yeah.

But you've been hitting them, right?

Like you did the Russian way. >> When when they start >> kicking them out naked in the snow. >> No.

No. when when they start to talk Russian, I start to punch them >> as usual.

Yeah, of course. >> How is it?

Uh like Nikicov, you have uh I made some I read I'm open the Wikipedia page of Nikol and it says that 81% is Russian.

No, 81% is Ukrainian and 14% is Russian there and there are like some other marginal some Jews and gypsies and Romanians, whatever.

Yeah, because because Jews are not Ukrainian and Russian. >> No, they are ethnical. >> It's also minority here.

Yeah, >> but just a few%. >> Yeah, actually like people majority of people talk talking Russian in Nikolai.

It was all the same from my child childhood because I was talking with my friends in Russian, with my family in Russian.

Uh but I was uh studying at school on Ukrainian and it it's actually it was normal because for example with my classmates we were talking on uh Ukrainian on the lessons. >> Mhm. >> Uh but then on when we have a break we talk Russian because all the family is talking Russian.

I mean it's a little bit weird for >> but you are from nationality.

I'm Ukrainian, but uh for example, my mother's roots and my mother family is there from Russia.

They came during the Soviet Union >> from a small village or I don't know somewhere because a lot of people uh when it was the second world war, they were immigrating or they were sent in Ukrainian part of USSR.

Yeah, it was quite a common thing in the Soviet USSR that um people got because of work they got sent to total different cities from thousands kilometers away.

They lived there for a few years.

They did their project or mission or whatever and then they just got sent away to the other end of Soviet Union.

So >> that was kind of mixing up the people a bit.

I also heard >> I actually think it it they they have actually the choice but uh for example for my grandmother that was working in some plant and they make some details for turbines uh and stuff and uh they have like a biggest plant in Mikolive that that was making these turbines for planes.

So they just sent her in Mikolive region.

So okay >> that's how she get there >> when she stayed. >> Yeah and she stayed they >> which company was it?

Can you remember? >> Yeah it was uh it calls mash product. >> Okay y mash it's like south u I would say >> machinery >> south machinery factory.

Yeah yeah yeah. >> Okay. >> And it's actually still existing. >> Yeah.

It sounded actually familiar >> actually.

My mother was working there and my uncle was working there.

But uh for the moment my mother is freelancer and my uncle that was working with this uh he he was like a constructor with uh these turbines.

Turbines >> and now he's working in Korea. >> Oh, okay.

So you were the one that broke the family tradition of working in the turbines. >> On on my on my mother's line, everyone were uh teachers.

So for example, my grandmother from my mother mother's line was teacher of geographic and my grandmother from the same line was uh teacher of Russian >> literature and something else. >> So from the two paths of the turbine factory and teaching, you chose teaching. >> Yeah.

And father's line was engineers like uh engineers all the time. >> Yeah.

And um what I wanted to ask is what was um you mentioned me that uh you've been in Kiev during um uh during the when the protest started in 2014, right? >> Yeah. >> In Maidan. >> Yeah.

It was actually >> You've been there for the university or you went there because of the protest?

No, I was living actually in uh Mikolive that that time and uh I we like everyone was watching the news, watching TV and uh we think like okay the case what was like I really…

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